wnbpro vs intensiveNoobs (5328 views)

de RAMOZi
de rAKJI
de Phazor
de moppel
de Fendah
ch oLGaaa
nl Otyg
no domi
nl eddo
nl rocksin
pl kirej
be Lazio
12.09.11 22:00 CEST
Awards awarded to for
Lady Macbeth dev.TURBO MCKWEK 77 kills
Killing Spree dev.TURBO MCKWEK 7 frags without being killed
Accountant dev.TURBO MCKWEK 117% kills/killed ratio
He's dead, Jim! dev Domi evastion 24 gibs
...and stay dead! dev Otyg 41% gibs/kill
Lead Poisoning dev.TURBO MCKWEK 69 SMG kills
Spammity spam spam! dev Lazio 41 SPAM kills
Fragstealer dev Lazio 150 damage per frag
Die! Damn you, Die! wnbpro, oLGaa 241 damage per frag
What objective? dev Domi evastion 463 XP
Red Shirt dev Lazio 87 deaths
Are these pliers sharp? dev Otyg 10 deaths without fragging
Med Pack Whore wnbpro, ijkar -,- 177 damage per death
Eyes Wide Shut wnbpro, oLGaa 6 team kills
Gingerbread man dev Domi evastion 26 /kills
Player Summary for the entire Match
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NameEffXPKDGSuiTK/KDGDRTDKnfP/RSMGSPMD/KD/KdKSDS
dev kirej86354718212141012959109713820/04/961/5110/1618313245
dev Rockskin evastion824005466140420977493694250/05/346/364/918114255
dev.TURBO MCKWEK117461776623031112176108195060/02/669/369/1215816475
dev Lazio8733076872201161112985302950/028/103/5441/101469855
dev Otyg543513969163522627079824420/00/523/2811/15161111410
dev Domi evastion9746370722403261185598845230/04/659/308/1116913768
dev872359387442111420105641635755525730/043/6261/3083/1116613156
wnbpro, RAMOZii kckove703155782150317920385644390/016/915/4628/1316110458
wnbpro, ijkar -,-813705972131389013124982440/04/453/455/1615317149
wnbpro, moPPel 8D6836452761305108412118272010/05/1445/377/1616215649
wnbpro, Phazor :o64336517911121810050110471980/011/421/3919/1219713839
wnbpro, Fendah87380667322301211001102831260/00/854/4012/1316713546
wnbpro, oLGaa6040048807066987699443970/04/544/513/1420612439
wnbpro, 7121653334628151971575556416316050/040/5232/5174/1417413848
Player Summary for supply
[-] 1st Round (click columns to sort, the [+] to expand)
NameEffXPKDGSuiTK/KDGDRTDKnfP/RSMGSPMEvents
dev kirej961132526300145412861980/02/217/186/6DKDKDDKKKKXKDKDDKDDK/KDKDKDKKDKKKDKKDDDKDDKDKDKDDDDK
dev Rockskin evastion7711717221037322829251640/02/217/91/5/KK/DDK/DKK/KKDK/KDDD/KDKKKKDD/KTDDTTXDKDKD
dev.TURBO MCKWEK9610125268016347137441360/01/222/133/5DDK/KKDDK/KKDK/KDK/KTKKDKK/DKDKDKKDKDDK/DDKDKKDKDDKD
dev Lazio89100262910006369125371340/05/61/1415/4K/KKKKK/DDDKKDDDK/KK/K/DKDDKDDKKKDKDKKDDKDDDK/KDKDXDKDKD
dev Otyg471201021402817702832560/00/08/82/7/KDD/TDK/KKDDDKD/DK/DKDXK/DXT/DKK/D
dev Domi evastion7113715216006305229181330/01/213/61/8DKKDK/KD/XKDKDKDDD/KKKK/D/DDKK/KDDDKD
dev7968811814532063419753178177210/011/1478/6828/35
wnbpro, RAMOZii kckove107114282680012373322281020/010/10/1318/0K/DDKDK/KKKD/KK/KKKK/DKDKD/KKK/////DKKDKKD/KDDKKDKDKKK
wnbpro, ijkar -,-7910019246002280137951400/00/118/161/5DDDDDDDDDKDKDDDDKKDD/KDKKKK/KKKDKKKDKDKKDKD
wnbpro, moPPel 8D41791229600421634264180/01/79/102/5DDDDDDDDDK/K/KKDDKDK/DDDKDDKD/DDDDKDKDKKD
wnbpro, Phazor :o56931425500427053856180/01/19/144/5KDKKDDDKDDKDDDD/KKKD/DKDDK/KD/DKDDKDDKD
wnbpro, Fendah911342123810934362807360/00/014/87/5/KDK/KDK/KDDK/DDKK/KDK//KDDDKDK/KKKKD/KSKKKD
wnbpro, oLGaa651191726300329792803200/01/015/141/6KDKDKKDKKDDDD/DDDDKKDDKKDKDDDDKDDD/KKDK/KKD
wnbpro, 7363911115336103417817197533340/013/1065/7533/26

[-] 2nd Round (click columns to sort, the [+] to expand)
NameEffXPKDGSuiTK/KDGDRTDKnfP/RSMGSPMEvents
dev kirej56539160022177021641350/00/310/111/2DDKDKTDKKDDDDKK/D/DKDKDTDXKXD
dev Rockskin evastion7165101430032024199200/00/07/120/0KKKDDKDD/KDDK/KDKX/DKDKDD
dev.TURBO MCKWEK16311318115012279218871870/00/318/41/1K/KKK/KKDDDDDDTKKDKDKKKKDKKKKK
dev Lazio68711319600419071720820/06/20/127/1/KD/DDKDDDDDKDK/KDKD/KDKKDDKKKKD
dev Otyg58697123125106312211330/00/16/42/2KDD/X/K/D/DKSDDKXKK/TTK
dev Domi evastion75801520601927372173820/01/113/82/2KDDK//DD/DD/KX/DDK/KK/KKDKTK/K/KKDKDK
dev82451729223162512293111576190/07/1054/5113/8
wnbpro, RAMOZii kckove6462914300118172052130/00/07/112/2DDDKKDKDKK/DDDDKDKKDKDD
wnbpro, ijkar -,-107691413100323692449180/02/112/80/2K/KKKDDKKK/KDKXK/KDDDKDKDKDD
wnbpro, moPPel 8D13394161200021909195000/04/311/51/2//KDKKKDKKKKDKKKKDKKDKDKDDDD
wnbpro, Phazor :o4233819101613591804230/04/00/83/3DK/DDD/D/K/TDKDKKDKD/DKDDDK/
wnbpro, Fendah10063151550002251215900/00/414/121/1DKDKXKDKDDKKKXKKKDDXKDKKDDDDDDKKD
wnbpro, oLGaa3359412203114521879820/01/05/80/2DTDKTDK/TDDDDKDDKDD
wnbpro, 80380668512041311157122931360/011/849/527/12
Player Summary for sw_goldrush_te
[-] 1st Round (click columns to sort, the [+] to expand)
NameEffXPKDGSuiTK/KDGDRTDKnfP/RSMGSPMEvents
dev kirej75751520202224073001520/01/215/131/5DDKTKDDK/KDKK/DKDDKDDTKDDXXKDKDKDKDKDKD
dev Rockskin evastion759512167014184623761170/00/012/101/2DDTDDDKK/KKKKKD/D/DKKDDK/KDKD
dev.TURBO MCKWEK1141181614701128582658750/01/114/102/2DDDKKDKDKKKD/KDKDKTDDDDDKKKKKKK
dev Lazio120712420501331322339430/014/00/1711/2KKDDDKXDDKKD/KDKDKD/KKKDKKKXDKDKTKKDDDDKKK/XKDKK
dev Otyg16743184014114424011430/00/22/111/3D/DDXXDDDXDK//DDDKDDKDDT/
dev Domi evastion10010513133024252521992090/00/010/83/1KKDTKDKDTDKD/DKK/D/DKDK/KKKK
dev835388310128081813912149746390/016/553/6919/15
wnbpro, RAMOZii kckove578911191011208920081040/01/58/93/5DTKKKD/KDDKDDDKDKDKXDKKDDKDDDDDD
wnbpro, ijkar -,-1001121313403020352501680/01/213/82/4KKKDKDTDDDDDTDKKKDKTDKKKDKKDXD
wnbpro, moPPel 8D116991412503123172470610/00/417/70/3KKKXDDKXKKDD/KDKTTKDXKDDKDKTKDKD
wnbpro, Phazor :o8310115181015309719831390/04/24/88/2DT/KDKKKDKKDK/K/KDKDKDKKDD/K/KDDDD
wnbpro, Fendah11788201771032824239600/00/117/103/4K/K/KDKKXKDDSKDKK/DXKDKXKDKKKKDKKDKKDDDD
wnbpro, oLGaa629010160011261225541410/00/39/100/2KXKDTDKDKKDDKDD/KDDKDDKDDDKD
wnbpro, 89579839518191114974139125130/06/1768/5216/20

[-] 2nd Round (click columns to sort, the [+] to expand)
NameEffXPKDGSuiTK/KDGDRTDKnfP/RSMGSPMEvents
dev kirej1101132220710542412945970/01/219/92/3KDDDKDKDKK/KDKSKDDDD/KKDKD/KKK/K/KKKKDKKKD
dev Rockskin evastion10712315143006267620761440/03/110/52/2KDKKKK/KKK/KDDDKD/K//KDKK/KDD
dev.TURBO MCKWEK12012918153002305525301080/00/015/93/4DKKKK/KDDKKKDK/DDDKKDKDKKKDDDKKKD
dev Lazio68881319100323991934360/03/22/118/3DDKDDKDDDKDDKKKDK/KD/DKDKKD/DKKD
dev Otyg1058819185205229315281100/00/27/56/3DKKKK/KKKSDK/KDKSKKDKK/DDKD/KKK/DKDDD
dev Domi evastion1501412718900735412594990/02/323/82/0DKDDKKDKKKDKDKK//KKK/K/KDKDDKKKK/KK/KKKKK/DKD
dev11068211410428302818205136075940/09/1076/4723/15
wnbpro, RAMOZii kckove39509233023156422762200/05/30/135/6DDDKTDKDDDKKDDDKDDKXDDTDDKX/DDD/D/KKX
wnbpro, ijkar -,-59891322210318083753180/01/010/132/5K/XKDDDKDDKKKDDDDKDDKK/DSKK/DDDDDKKD
wnbpro, moPPel 8D439210232023202331431220/00/08/154/6/DDDDKDDDDKDDKXKKKDDDKDT/K/XDDKDDDKDT
wnbpro, Phazor :o821091417410328893404180/02/18/94/2KKDKDK/KDKKDKKKDKKKDDDKSD/DDDDD/
wnbpro, Fendah55951018210024902921900/00/39/101/3KKDDKDKDDDKDKDKSKDDDKDDDDDDK
wnbpro, oLGaa6513217262021283327081540/02/215/192/4KKDDKDDDKDDDKDTDKDDDKDKDDKDKKD/TDDKDDKDDKDKKK
wnbpro, 575677312915361313607182056220/010/950/7918/26

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Player Chats
dev Rockskin evastion [Warmup]: unless we lose :}D
wnbpro, ijkar -,- [Warmup]: lazio my flat mates surfing :(
dev Otyg [Warmup]: we dont make fuzz out of small thing
dev Otyg [Warmup]: we nice
wnbpro, ijkar -,- [Warmup]: lets make a deal: if we win we wont complain cuz of lazio and if we lose we gonna go for forfeit in :D
dev Otyg [Warmup]: sure
wnbpro, ijkar -,- [Warmup]: k :D
dev Lazio [Warmup]: (trolled hard)
dev kirej [Warmup]: ok
wnbpro, ijkar -,- [Warmup]: HOEHOEHOE
dev Lazio [Warmup]: ramoz u rifle ? :)
wnbpro, RAMOZii kckove [Warmup]: yes in attack
wnbpro, oLGaa [Warmup]: b team
wnbpro, oLGaa [Warmup]: :D
dev Lazio [Warmup]: ramoz best rifle @ sage :P
dev Rockskin evastion [Warmup]: slurpslurp
wnbpro, RAMOZii kckove [Warmup]: :D
wnbpro, RAMOZii kckove [Warmup]: not rly but ok
dev Otyg [Warmup]: yeah i thought so aswell
wnbpro, RAMOZii kckove [Warmup]: i talked to you lazio about zZz
dev Lazio [Warmup]: i saw u rolling !
dev Lazio [Warmup]: live !
dev Otyg [Warmup]: and very good looking
dev Otyg [Warmup]: nicest guy there
dev Otyg [Warmup]: aswell
wnbpro, oLGaa [Warmup]: rakji is right back after he killed his flatmates
wnbpro, RAMOZii kckove [Warmup]: shut up otyg
dev Otyg [Warmup]: kk
dev Otyg [Warmup]: :(
wnbpro, RAMOZii kckove [Warmup]: i asked you about him
dev Otyg [Warmup]: i said he was ON cb
wnbpro, oLGaa [Warmup]: you cool otyg, ramoz just mad
dev Otyg [Warmup]: never said anything about in time
dev Rockskin evastion [Warmup]: ":d"
wnbpro, RAMOZii kckove [Warmup]: next time i get kresti and co
dev Otyg [Warmup]: k
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [Warmup]: <.<
dev Lazio [Warmup]: kresti boon :S
dev Domi evastion [Warmup]: kresti lol only
dev Otyg [Warmup]: IF THERE WILL BE A NEXT TIME :S
dev Rockskin evastion [Warmup]: 7ele will force kresti not to play
dev Rockskin evastion [Warmup]: np
dev Lazio [Warmup]: kresti cannot into 6v6 :S
dev Rockskin evastion [Warmup]: ggggl
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [Warmup]: to sum up:
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [Warmup]: we don't like it, that you picked lazio as "merc", but we allow him
dev Otyg [Warmup]: thanks
dev Otyg [Warmup]: we love you for that
dev.TURBO MCKWEK [Warmup]: not the first time we play with him tho
dev Otyg [Warmup]: true
wnbpro, oLGaa [Warmup]: i got no prob because of that
wnbpro, ijkar -,- [Warmup]: we dont care:D
wnbpro, RAMOZii kckove [Warmup]: moppel has nothing to say
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [Warmup]: still, cbrules would not allow him
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [Warmup]: :)
wnbpro, oLGaa [Warmup]: you guys are cool
dev Otyg [Warmup]: this is true
dev Otyg [Warmup]: im sorry for that
dev Rockskin evastion [Warmup]: but we play with lazio qutie often :/ didnt even realise he wasnt in team last moment
wnbpro, RAMOZii kckove [Warmup]: your fault
wnbpro, RAMOZii kckove [Warmup]: not our
dev Rockskin evastion [Warmup]: its just a game
dev kirej [Warmup]: plz
dev Otyg [Warmup]: and just a ladder match
wnbpro, RAMOZii kckove [Warmup]: thinking about cuz we have one lagger
dev.TURBO MCKWEK [Warmup]: if you'd rather take the 10 forfeit points take them x)
dev Otyg [Warmup]: get kresti
wnbpro, oLGaa [Warmup]: but the high ping is rather shit
dev Otyg [Warmup]: playing > taking forfeit and not making friends :(
dev Lazio [Warmup]: could work in his advantage :P
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [Warmup]: let's wait a bit, maybe his ping will lower
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [Countdown]: hf
dev Rockskin evastion [Countdown]: gg gl
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [Countdown]: gl
wnbpro, oLGaa [Countdown]: hf <3
[14:39]: Axis Command Post constructed. Charge speed increased!
[9:23]: The Allies have captured the forward bunker!
[8:37]: The Allies have breached the Forward Bunker Gate!
[8:25]: The Allies have opened up the Forward spawn rear exit!
[6:50]: Allied team has destroyed the Axis Command Post!
[6:46]: Allied Command Post constructed. Charge speed increased!
[6:00]: The Allies have breached the Depot Gate!
[5:54]: The Depot Fence has been constructed.
[5:23]: The Allies have breached the Depot's west wall!
[5:14]: The Allies have breached the Depot's east wall!
[4:41]: The Allied Truck is in position!
[4:32]: The Crane Controls have been constructed.
[4:30]: The Allies have activated the crane!
[4:16]: The Allies have loaded the Gold Crate onto the Truck!
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [3:11]: gg
[3:09]: The Allies have escaped with the Gold Crate!
[Intermission]: >>> Clock set to: 11:50
wnbpro, oLGaa [Warmup]: 1 bathroom
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [Warmup]: oty dmgwhore
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [Warmup]: :o
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [Warmup]: :)
dev Otyg [Warmup]: yesyes
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [Warmup]: same role as i have obviously :D
dev Otyg [Warmup]: :D
dev kirej [Warmup]: ROLE
dev kirej [Warmup]: :D
dev.TURBO MCKWEK [Warmup]: otyg always gets this damage whatever the role
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [Warmup]: ROLEPLAy
dev Otyg [Warmup]: i get my xp np
wnbpro, ijkar -,- [Warmup]: oh jeez my ping
dev Rockskin evastion [Warmup]: ready?
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [Warmup]: then we would have rupped?
dev Domi evastion [Warmup]: no
dev Domi evastion [Warmup]: then you would have readied
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [Warmup]: funny gay
dev Domi evastion [Warmup]: wanna share a bed with me?
dev Otyg [Warmup]: no need to be rude
wnbpro, oLGaa [Warmup]: YES
dev Lazio [Warmup]: i feel some hate between these 2 teams !
wnbpro, oLGaa [Warmup]: i am sexy
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [Warmup]: ?
dev kirej [Warmup]: less talk more f3s
wnbpro, ijkar -,- [Warmup]: actually i like team iN :)
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [Warmup]: only because you are merc :)
dev Domi evastion [Warmup]: cuz off me
dev Otyg [Warmup]: and we like ur rakji
wnbpro, ijkar -,- [Warmup]: thats a extra point domi
dev Otyg [Warmup]: iN is no more tho
wnbpro, ijkar -,- [Warmup]: ok
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [Countdown]: hf
dev kirej [Countdown]: only guy we dont like is that retard ramoz
dev Lazio [Countdown]: i like him :S
dev Otyg [11:45]: me2
[11:32]: Axis Command Post constructed. Charge speed increased!
[10:28]: The Allies have captured the forward bunker!
[9:51]: The Allies have breached the Forward Bunker Gate!
[9:46]: The Allies have opened up the Forward spawn rear exit!
[7:43]: Allied team has destroyed the Axis Command Post!
[7:39]: Allied Command Post constructed. Charge speed increased!
[6:45]: The Allies have breached the Depot's east wall!
[6:17]: The Allies have breached the Depot Gate!
[5:47]: The Allies have breached the Depot's west wall!
[5:41]: The Allied Truck is in position!
[5:26]: The Crane Controls have been constructed.
[5:25]: The Allies have activated the crane!
[5:12]: The Allies have loaded the Gold Crate onto the Truck!
wnbpro, Phazor :o [4:09]: crajsor: go blow your dads dick faggot
dev Domi evastion [4:02]: he always so mad that sweboy
wnbpro, Phazor :o [3:47]: idle^URTIER: xD
wnbpro, Phazor :o [3:47]: idle^senji: du schwitzt weil du dick bist
wnbpro, Phazor :o [3:47]: one4one.gambit: ich schwitz schon so spannend ist das.
dev Lazio [3:44]: :<
wnbpro, ijkar -,- [3:33]: ggwp
[3:31]: The Allies have escaped with the Gold Crate!
[Intermission]: >>> Objective reached at 8:19 (original: 11:50)
dev Otyg [Warmup]: thanks olgam8
dev kirej [Warmup]: fast plz
wnbpro, Phazor :o [Countdown]: dont be so arrogant
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [Countdown]: hf
dev Domi evastion [Countdown]: we are
dev Domi evastion [Countdown]: PROBLEM OFFICER????
[14:45]: Axis Command Post constructed. Charge speed increased!
[13:52]: Allied team has destroyed the Axis Command Post!
[13:48]: Allied Command Post constructed. Charge speed increased!
[12:26]: The Tank has been repaired!
[12:23]: Allied team has stolen the Tank!
[12:18]: The Tank has been damaged!
[12:11]: Tank Barrier #1 has been constructed.
[11:58]: The Tank has been repaired!
[10:59]: Tank Barrier #1 has been destroyed.
dev Domi evastion [10:45]: !
[10:30]: The Tank has been damaged!
[10:10]: The Tank has been repaired!
[9:59]: Allied team has destroyed the Bank Doors!
[9:24]: The Tank has been damaged!
[5:55]: Allied team is escaping with the Gold Crate!
dev Otyg [5:17]: stuck :(
dev Otyg [5:07]: yes i did muchos shooting
[4:52]: Allied team escaped with the Gold Crate!
[Intermission]: >>> Clock set to: 10:07
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [Intermission]: GG
wnbpro, oLGaa [Intermission]: gg
dev Otyg [Intermission]: A :D:D:D:D::D
dev Otyg [Intermission]: lol
[9:53]: Axis Command Post constructed. Charge speed increased!
[9:40]: Allied team has destroyed the Axis Command Post!
[9:35]: Allied Command Post constructed. Charge speed increased!
wnbpro, ijkar -,- [7:33]: n1 otyg:D
[5:44]: The Tank has been repaired!
[5:39]: The Tank has been damaged!
wnbpro, moPPel 8D [5:37]: wrf
dev Domi evastion [5:35]: :DdDddDDDD
dev Domi evastion [5:35]: :DdDddDDDD
dev Domi evastion [5:34]: :DdDddDDDD
dev Domi evastion [5:34]: :DdDddDDDD
[5:29]: The Tank has been repaired!
[5:27]: Allied team has stolen the Tank!
dev Otyg [4:55]: wth :P
dev Otyg [4:49]: coudnt hit u there
[4:42]: The Tank has been damaged!
[4:39]: The Tank has been repaired!
[4:12]: Truck Barrier #1 has been constructed.
[4:10]: The Tank has been damaged!
[3:54]: The Tank has been repaired!
[3:45]: The Tank has been damaged!
[3:36]: The Tank has been repaired!
dev Otyg [3:21]: 8)
dev Domi evastion [3:21]: what
dev Domi evastion [3:17]: WTF?
[3:13]: Allied team has destroyed the Bank Doors!
[3:10]: The Tank has been damaged!
[2:08]: Truck Barrier #1 has been destroyed.
dev Otyg [0:46]: gogo domi
wnbpro, Phazor :o [0:38]: crajsor: go blow your dads dick faggot
wnbpro, Phazor :o [0:36]: :)
wnbpro, oLGaa [0:36]: wp
dev Domi evastion [0:26]: gg wp
dev Otyg [0:09]: 8)
wnbpro, Phazor :o [0:08]: lazio too strong
wnbpro, Phazor :o [0:08]: again
dev Rockskin evastion [0:06]: ±D
[0:04]: Axis team has destroyed the Allied Command Post!
dev Rockskin evastion [0:03]: oh you
[Intermission]: >>> Objective NOT reached in time (10:07)
[Intermission]: wnbpro, RAMOZii kckove disconnected
wnbpro, ijkar -,- [Intermission]: wp boys
dev Otyg [Intermission]: wp
dev Lazio [Intermission]: >auit
[Intermission]: wnbpro, moPPel 8D disconnected
dev Otyg [Intermission]: thanks for the game
dev Domi evastion [Intermission]: gg wp
dev Rockskin evastion [Intermission]: wp
[Intermission]: dev Domi evastion disconnected
dev Otyg [Intermission]: bb rak
[Intermission]: dev Lazio disconnected
[Intermission]: wnbpro, Fendah disconnected
[Intermission]: wnbpro, Phazor :o disconnected
wnbpro, oLGaa [Intermission]: WP BB GUYS
[Intermission]: dev kirej disconnected

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