Warleagues ET player banned (15283 Views)
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Anaconda
on 14.05.06 02:01
As a result of using disallowed cheats on a practice 3o3,
[flag=sco]hx^razz has been banned from all Warleagues Cups / Leagues and will never be allowed to play any Cups / Leagues in the future as a use of this kind of tools / cheats is totally disallowed by Warleagues.
[flag=sco] razz was known as one of the top UK players and earned a lot of respect troughout the Warleagues Season V ( Last Warleagues season ) Premier group, Clanbase NationsCup and the EuroCup, but it is after usage of this kind of cheats that this well earned respect went to 0.0.
We would like to point out that cheaters will get a permanent ban on Warleagues, without further discussion.
Team Helix clan is beeing told that they can still participate in the Cup as razz himself has been kicked from the clan.
Further more, the game
Team Helix vs Tank Thirty Four in Season VI where razz was fielded, Tank Thirty Four gets a def. win 0-2 instead of the 2-0 for Team Helix as Warleagues states that recent games where the cheating player was fielded, get a def. win for the other team!
If Team Helix would feel the need to field any player(s) that use this kind of cheats, then Team Helix itself is able to get a permanent Warleagues ban.
The Punkbuster screenshots can be found here:
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[flag=sco]hx^razz has been banned from all Warleagues Cups / Leagues and will never be allowed to play any Cups / Leagues in the future as a use of this kind of tools / cheats is totally disallowed by Warleagues.
[flag=sco] razz was known as one of the top UK players and earned a lot of respect troughout the Warleagues Season V ( Last Warleagues season ) Premier group, Clanbase NationsCup and the EuroCup, but it is after usage of this kind of cheats that this well earned respect went to 0.0.
We would like to point out that cheaters will get a permanent ban on Warleagues, without further discussion.
Team Helix clan is beeing told that they can still participate in the Cup as razz himself has been kicked from the clan.
Further more, the game
Team Helix vs Tank Thirty Four in Season VI where razz was fielded, Tank Thirty Four gets a def. win 0-2 instead of the 2-0 for Team Helix as Warleagues states that recent games where the cheating player was fielded, get a def. win for the other team!If Team Helix would feel the need to field any player(s) that use this kind of cheats, then Team Helix itself is able to get a permanent Warleagues ban.
The Punkbuster screenshots can be found here:
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Comments
eXtr_
Sunday, 14th May 2006 02:04
OWNED!!1
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hmm as one of the top cheaters
:o lol
okay i should start to care about that...
Too much attention for a little sad kid, imo...
WTF those screenies are vage
Woops! xD
gj
:o
t34 first & last wl win imo :)
lol!
can somebody explain me how those pictures can prove that he has this "cheat"? I really think they are very very very vage (just like rocksolid :P) In my oppionon you can't even say he is "cheating" when you look at those pictures and the text under it 0.o
He can see through trees using an external program (screenshot1) + he has a custom crosshair also by using an external program.
I got a custom crosshair too, but it's ingame. You can easily create it size by typing some weird code (which is not cheating, because it is allowed according to pb).
so is everything that pb doesnt kick for because it sucks allowed?
my point is that you can't ban somebody for a custom crosshair :S. I mean, we could kick more people then with a custom size of the crosshair. You can adapt that too. But have you heard of anybody being banned because he had a custom size? Not exactly. And still, if it the match wasn't on/for cb/wl what the fuck do they have to do with it? As long as he doesn't use "this external program" in the officials everything will be fine. CB and WL are both being very unreasonable on this point. Im sorry for both these tournaments but if you keep deleting these big players ET is definitly going dead. So from now on I don't want to hear any whine any more from CB or WL that ET is going dead. They are the ones killing it.
he got banned for creating himself an unfair advantage in comparison to other players, that involves removing parts of the map as well as using an extra programme to compensate the problems that arise because of this.
So i think the xhair part is interesting because it shows that he knew that his et wasnt meant to look like that.
So i think the xhair part is interesting because it shows that he knew that his et wasnt meant to look like that.
removing parts of the map? try /r_drawfoliage 0 ... it removes the grass on radar for example... I got it too, but has anyone ever banned me before? guess not 0.o but can you see on the screenies that his crosshair is being edited by another program? (not that Im very good at understanding that screeny :P ), and if that is so, can you be 100%, but REALLY 100% sure that is another program? If it is 99,9% there is still change he isn't using it. This is reason for CB and WL to unbann him. CB and WL don't want to punish innesent people, won't they?
disussing if he did or not is not neccessary because he admited, thats why its quite easy to judge :p
no grass on radar is in the clanwar config - everybody has it, removing tree's is not in the config afaik
no grass on radar is in the clanwar config - everybody has it, removing tree's is not in the config afaik
Basically what Arnie said.
Using picmip 15 [ or others alike ] will remove all grass / leaves giving an unfair advantage un such maps as Radar. /r_drawfoliage only removes grass, which is allowed on most servers anyway.
If you look at Screenshot 1 again, you can notice there's ment to be a bush there. don't you think it's abit unfair that someone can hide behind this bush shooting you without seeing them?
With the settings used above it also removes your crosshair completely, therefor you'd need an external one to help yourself =]
Using picmip 15 [ or others alike ] will remove all grass / leaves giving an unfair advantage un such maps as Radar. /r_drawfoliage only removes grass, which is allowed on most servers anyway.
If you look at Screenshot 1 again, you can notice there's ment to be a bush there. don't you think it's abit unfair that someone can hide behind this bush shooting you without seeing them?
With the settings used above it also removes your crosshair completely, therefor you'd need an external one to help yourself =]
how can you be sure it was him? I mean, if he admitted it on IRC, it could be some kind of nicklamer pretending he was razz. (im not discussing the guid, because I think that must be correct (although there is always some way to get the same guid)) If you did a /msg L whoami or something, it still might be somebody else, who had razz's pass.
then this point. If he can't see the trees, why isnt he bumping into them then? :S
then this point. If he can't see the trees, why isnt he bumping into them then? :S
you understand the working of punkbuster?
the above screenshots were taken as his computer, dircectly what he see's
in general a bit of evidence and admitting you did is is enough for any court ...
the above screenshots were taken as his computer, dircectly what he see's
in general a bit of evidence and admitting you did is is enough for any court ...
has he been in front of the court then? was their a judge giving him a penalty? was it a fair judge? did he admit it in real life?
and for the screenshots. IF he sees em like this he must have a very clever brain to still know were those damn trees are hiding to not bump into them ...
and for the screenshots. IF he sees em like this he must have a very clever brain to still know were those damn trees are hiding to not bump into them ...
you can see the shadow of the tree on the ground as well as the stem, just no leaves and bushy stuff.
generally: everything thats removed with these hacks can also be walked through
generally: everything thats removed with these hacks can also be walked through
aah :) that cleares up my problem :> , and btw. It was an practice war right? Are CB and WL allowed to ban him then, because they have like nothing to do with it, UNLESS he does it in a official war. I didn't read the CB/WL rules, but are they providing the information saying that he may NEVER use "external" programs?
yes. now live with it :)
its probably the problem that you didnt read the clanbase rules ;-)
for clanbase i'm 100% sure that they can ban people for cheating nomatter where.
I dont know the wl rules myself, because i never played it
for clanbase i'm 100% sure that they can ban people for cheating nomatter where.
I dont know the wl rules myself, because i never played it
yea I found the rule here too. I yes, it was the problem I didn't know the CB rules.
For WL it says this (I didn't find more (maybe improve the rules? :D ))
"3. In-game cheating outside warleagues.com
Match of another league/ladder/cup: Actions will be taken in accordance to the C&A Policy if evidence is handed. There is no tolerance of cheating. In case of evidence the Admins will react as they see fit."
as I believe it was a practice match. This means it was not a league/ladder/cup match (unless they use those matches as practice matches, which I think would not be very smart).
ps. sorry gino for still whining about it :P just start ignoring me like everybody else if you don't like me (A)
For WL it says this (I didn't find more (maybe improve the rules? :D ))
"3. In-game cheating outside warleagues.com
Match of another league/ladder/cup: Actions will be taken in accordance to the C&A Policy if evidence is handed. There is no tolerance of cheating. In case of evidence the Admins will react as they see fit."
as I believe it was a practice match. This means it was not a league/ladder/cup match (unless they use those matches as practice matches, which I think would not be very smart).
ps. sorry gino for still whining about it :P just start ignoring me like everybody else if you don't like me (A)
dear vlx...u r a fag!!
you are totally right.
but if it wouldnt have been razz himself, he would have said sth?
btw, overrated "hack"
but if it wouldnt have been razz himself, he would have said sth?
btw, overrated "hack"
a hack is a hack gives him an unfair advantage, im sure ya wouldnt be sayin that if you had to play against him with those turned on, Is there an aimbot with it? or is there no way of telling?
@ ons:> : I know I'm whining around here now, but I think they are punishing razz too hard :S
@ slyce: I dunno why he didn't say sth :x maybe he is too frightened? :O conclusion: it must have been him, damn you! you ruined my argument! :P
@ etnies & chezz_: An aimbot is just so lame. As chezz already said its way to obvious too xD.
@ everybody... I'll stop whining here now :D I'll just whine to my ET clan about it (which is QrX) (and if you wish to keep whining together with me you should contact me on #Qrx.et @ Qnet :D )
@ slyce: I dunno why he didn't say sth :x maybe he is too frightened? :O conclusion: it must have been him, damn you! you ruined my argument! :P
@ etnies & chezz_: An aimbot is just so lame. As chezz already said its way to obvious too xD.
@ everybody... I'll stop whining here now :D I'll just whine to my ET clan about it (which is QrX) (and if you wish to keep whining together with me you should contact me on #Qrx.et @ Qnet :D )
IMO You must have a really crap PC to use r_picmip 15...
I got a windows95. 128MB 444Mhz. Disk space: 5Gb.
any other comment left? :)
any other comment left? :)
I got AMD Duron 650MHz, SDR 192, GeForce 2 MX 400. <3
PS. No jokes now, it's my true PC :P.
PS. No jokes now, it's my true PC :P.
surely not an aimbot, that's a cheat to obvious (playing constant with abnormal high accuracy says enough) hax is far more difficult to proove but as seen above, not impossible
that you try to outsmarten a game, I can respect that, but whats the fun in letting a computer do the work for you, when recieving credits it cant give an erective feeling
that you try to outsmarten a game, I can respect that, but whats the fun in letting a computer do the work for you, when recieving credits it cant give an erective feeling
play by the rules
and everyone has his own fettisch
chezzmate chezz_ thats it
cheating doesn't satisfy at all
it sucks
chezzmate chezz_ thats it
cheating doesn't satisfy at all
it sucks
checkm8 & amen to that
.o. \o. \o/ .o/ .o.
try to get some sleep zenko ;-)
Hi,
i totaly agree with the opinion of tospot.
As far as i know he cheated in a non official match and in my opinion you cant ban someone for cheating in a non official match.
Do you get baned from sportsleagues if you cheat in a match with friends? NO!
Sure cheating is not right but thats no reason for banning him from all warlueages!
ZeroJoker
i totaly agree with the opinion of tospot.
As far as i know he cheated in a non official match and in my opinion you cant ban someone for cheating in a non official match.
Do you get baned from sportsleagues if you cheat in a match with friends? NO!
Sure cheating is not right but thats no reason for banning him from all warlueages!
ZeroJoker
They can ban him. They just did. Warleagues rules are simple, dont cheat. He did cheat, hence he's banned. Doesnt matter if it was in official or not, at least not to warleagues, and if you want to play for warleagues you must obey their rules.
the rules suck tbh :x I agree with ZeroJoker, although his example is a bit weird, but it's hitting the main issue.
well thats a different subject. The issue is not wether or not the rules suck but wether or not clanbase and warleagues can do this, and yes they can do this ;-)
for example in football.
if a player is doped and they found out after a friendly match and the player didnt play any official in this time, i doubt Fifa wont do anything. They will mostlikely ban him for all Fifa competitions as well.
Its just stupid to allow someone to cheat/dope or whatever just because he didnt play official in any leagues with cheat. Thats why wl and cb banned him.
if a player is doped and they found out after a friendly match and the player didnt play any official in this time, i doubt Fifa wont do anything. They will mostlikely ban him for all Fifa competitions as well.
Its just stupid to allow someone to cheat/dope or whatever just because he didnt play official in any leagues with cheat. Thats why wl and cb banned him.
Fucking good example :o
true, its not that you have to play something official, if you cheat; even just for fun you are taking a risk and razz took that risk, so and now hes banned, own fault imo tbh
true, its not that you have to play something official, if you cheat; even just for fun you are taking a risk and razz took that risk, so and now hes banned, own fault imo tbh
u r more worried bout this ban than him tbh :| dont worry razz fans, hell get a new pc soon xD and dont be so sure that he cheated ONLY in this nonoffi match :/ how can u know that?? only cuz HE said that he cheatd once and in a friendly match? owww plz :|
and btw cheaters feel happy when they have cheats that r better than some1 elses cheats trust me... not like im a cheater but ive a been to a srv where cheats r allowed and they actually have pleasure while owning others with 3 aimbots turned on in the same time 0o
